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Hi Mark, 'Speed' is not the issue here... With Ethernet it's what happens when you get large packet loss (which equates to lost 'audio' in our case)... And with virtualisation it's the loss of deterministic behaviour (which degrades low level timing)... In both cases some systems will work and some won't... And the 'working' systems can almost always be broken by heavy work load on the network or system. A good example of what happens with Ethernet packet loss is to run a VoIP call across a busy network and listen to the call quality degrade.... In fax this quickly equates to a failed call. Have you ever stress tested your setup ? How many fax's do you send/receive in a typical day ? In our lab we've been able to break most (maybe all) virtual servers that we have tested for use with fax servers. Ultimately, I'm trying to encourage people to keep it simple because in my experience that always works out for the best. Regards ANDREW RINALDI Mainpine Limited Support USA +1 503 822 9944 | Asia/Europe +44 1225 869439 andrew.rinaldi@xxxxxxxxxxxx | www.mainpine.com -----Original Message----- From: hylafax-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:hylafax-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: 03 February 2007 16:44 To: hylafax-users@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [hylafax-users] Using a serial modem through a converter from ethernet to serial andrew rinaldi <andrew.rinaldi <at> mainpine.com> writes: > > Hi Davide, < snip > < snip > > > Hi Davide, > > > > I suspect that this will never work reliably.... Firstly, running HylaFAX on > > a virtual server removes the tight timing and control needed between the > > protocol engine and the fax hardware, and secondly, the Ethernet to serial > > converter does the same thing but with even less control of the timing. Andrew, Do you not believe that the use of good quality network-serial adapters, and virtual servers - if they are VERY FAST, would work reliably? I believe that many virtual servers out there are over-powered and under-utilized. At least in my case I have been experimenting with VMware Server (free version) on my personal Acer Aspire 3000LMi laptop, and am using with it an ESP-2MI serial adapter with a good serial modem - it receives and sends faxes just fine. Mark ____________________ HylaFAX(tm) Users Mailing List _______________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe, click http://lists.hylafax.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi On UNIX: mail -s unsubscribe hylafax-users-request@xxxxxxxxxxx < /dev/null *To learn about commercial HylaFAX(tm) support, mail sales@xxxxxxxxx* ____________________ HylaFAX(tm) Users Mailing List _______________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe, click http://lists.hylafax.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi On UNIX: mail -s unsubscribe hylafax-users-request@xxxxxxxxxxx < /dev/null *To learn about commercial HylaFAX(tm) support, mail sales@xxxxxxxxx*