Re: [hylafax-users] new community site

["Darren Nickerson" <darren.nickerson@xxxxxxxx>]

Lee Howard wrote:

> Darren would like everyone to believe that "the HylaFAX project" is 
> already goverened democratically.  This is not true.  The HylaFAX project 
> is goverened by the benevolent presidency of Sam Leffler, who has stepped 
> away and has let the license govern in his stead.

Sam Leffler voluntarily withdrew from involvement in HylaFAX years ago. He 
may be a benevolent president of some HylaFAX project somewhere, but the one 
at hylafax.org, which has identified itself as the HylaFAX Development Team 
for years, is a democratic collective of volunteers who make decisions by 
concensus. Sam has no problem with this.

> What  Darren is really saying, though, is that he feels _hylafax.org_ is 
> governed democratically.

The group of volunteers that have called themselves The HylaFAX Development 
Team, who have operated out of hylafax.org, is governed by democratic 
principles, yes.

Please, I renew my appeal for you to brand your site in a way that does not 
make it look like hylafax.org, and I once again request that you not 
announce releases of HylaFAX in the name of "The HylaFAX Development Team" 
that are not, in fact, sanctioned by that body. There can be no argument 
that this term has been used by the hylafax.org community, and I don't see 
any reason why you would want to use it anyway.

This isn't complicated.  Many people have supported my request publicly 
here, and it doesn't seem unreasonable. Please, by all means bless and cut 
as many releases as you like and encourage people to use them, but don't do 
it in the name of an organization whose democratic process and priciples you 
have chosen to ignore, and have deliberately circumvented.

I don't understand your objection to this. How you can reasonably call 
yourself "The HylaFAX Development Team" (a name which the hylafax.org 
developers have used for years), and why you would even want to? Aren't you 
trying to distinguish yourself from us as much as possible?

It's not a big request, please just do a little rebranding, and do release 
announcements in the name of "Our Development Team", or the SourceForge 
HylaFAX Development Team", or "We the People". If you like perhaps we can 
even call those who choose to work within the democratic process of 
hylafax.org the "HylaFAX.org HylaFAX Development Team". I would of course 
need to propose this on-list and have it discussed because I can't just 
"make it so" like you can, but I suspect many will see benefit in creating a 
distinction ... most of the people who have replied to these threads have 
supported making the distinction clear.

-Darren


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