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David, Thanks - I was using the command line ftp. I did have a problem with permissions but solved that. So, more accurately, I get different results from hfaxd depending on whether I use: - command line ftp - Netscape - the KDE mail client I cannot retrieve files from the received fax folder. I have pointed the various clients at other files within the Hylafax directory structure. Sometimes you strike lucky and a file is retrievable. There appears, at my level of knowledge, to be no difference in ownership or permissions between a file that will retrieve and one that won't Netscape also uniquely sometimes returns a listing of file permissions instead of the directory contents. This is all very mystifying - hence my need for more advice and the interest in digging into the code. Iain on 2/9/00 8:34 AM, David Woolley at david@djwhome.demon.co.uk wrote: >> >> I have found that when trying to retrieve faxes, hylafax returns different >> results depending on whether I use an email client, Netscape or ftp - none > > GUI ftps are likely to fail as the ftp protocol doesn't specify the > format of directory listings. For command line FTPs you should be able > to turn on debugging in the FTP client. > > The usual problem with ftp is that the default file permissions don't > allow reading.