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Hello all, i figured out a fix, it works great now :) thanks to all who helped me and apolgoeis if i got on the nerves of anyone For future reference here's what I did: copied a password out of /etc/shadow(solaris 2.6) into the hosts file, for localhost. telneted into it, added users using the site adduser command. took me a while where it still failed to figure out taht when in the whfc client i had specified my login to be jduncan i needed to tell the hylafax server(via hosts file) that i was logging in as jduncan, not jduncan@whatever.rand.com. so now my entry looks like this: jduncan:3:gobbledygook and it works just great :) (very quick too, gotta love networking) thanks again to everyone that helped me out with this. Josh Duncan (next step, inbound faxes oh boy :) one more thing: to the makers of hylafax, and whfc, keep up the great work! :) despite any griping and moaning about things not working right, or bugs in the software, your work and help IS appreciated. chalk the griping/moaning up to user stupidity ;> ---- Josh Duncan duncan@msmd.org God's like Comet(TM), nothing cleans better.