[hylafax-users] R: hylafax 6 and landscaped pages

["max" <pinco_pallo_@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

hi 
thank you for the very detailed response.
I've immediately try the solution
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.user/31816
considering that I've already installed that additional software on my
centos 5.5.
However it doesn't work. 
I suppose because the document I'm trying to send is a pdf and not a tiff?
Next I will try other suggestion, but I don't have 
/var/spool/hylafax/etc/FaxModify file.
Should I simply create a blank file containing only that line?

By the way here you are the simple fax (a simple pdf file) with a rotated
page that don't work well.

I've also another question...
Thanks to your suggestion and other searches, I was able to sort incoming
faxes in a folder by device,
and also to let that every user see only his files.
But I need same thing for SENT faxes.
I've noticed that in crontab there is /usr/local/sbin/faxqclean -A
(A added by me) that remove files from docq.
Could I safely remove that moving files operation?
Because I would like that every user could see all the faxes he/she send.
But only only files that belong to the respective device-group....
Thanks.

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: hylafax-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:hylafax-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxx] Per conto di Lee Howard
Inviato: lunedì 5 luglio 2010 20:26
A: max
Cc: hylafax-users@xxxxxxxxxxx
Oggetto: Re: [hylafax-users] hylafax 6 and landscaped pages

max wrote:
>
> I?m sending faxes through YAJHFC client.
>
> I don?t know if the problem is due to the client or to hylafax.
>
> There is a strange problem when I try to send a fax where the cover 
> page is vertical
>
> and page 2, for example, is instead horizontal.
>
> The document that I see in preview is exactly like that, and it is 
> displayed perfectly.
>
> On the receiver side it doesn?t.
>
> The second page is incomplete, I mean that page 2 is vertical and, 
> obviously
>
> there is 2 very large borders at left and right of the original text 
> that are missing.
>
> How can I tell to hylafax to automatically rotate landscaped pages?
>

The question of whether or not this is a problem with the client 
depends, I suppose, on whether or not the rotate-to-portrait behavior is 
expected of the server. I would suggest that it is. Therefore, in my 
opinion the proper handling of landscape pages is a responsibility of 
the server.

This is a problem that we've been hitting on for quite some time with 
HylaFAX. And the problem has to do with a combination of Ghostscript's 
limitations with the limitations of fax operation. Here are some 
comments from the HylaFAX+ common-functions code...

#
# The image must end up with a pixel width according to T.32 Table 21.
# Ghostscript contains code to fixate a4 and letter to 1728 pixels
# when using 196-204 dpi and tiffg3/4, it supposedly does the same for
# B4 but not for A3, thus the floats are needed (for A3's benefit).
#
# See ghostscript/doc/Devices.htm under -dAdjustWidth=1 (default).
# Use -dAdjustWidth=0 to disable. With the right patch,
# http://bugs.ghostscript.com/show_bug.cgi?id=688064
# AdjustWidth can be made to specify the pagewidth directly and
# replace -dFIXEDMEDIA to permit TIFFs to be produced with
# varied lengths.
#
# Another alternative to -dFIXEDMEDIA is -dPDFFitPage which has the
# difference of "resizing" images to fit the page rather than cutting
# them off.
#
# And yet another alternative is to use FIXEDWIDTH='bin/auto-rotate.ps'
# which should rotate all pages to portrait and adjust to fit A4 page
# size. (Mixed page sizes are not supported by it.)
#

In other words, because fax has fixed-pixel-width limitations which 
really do not exactly match standard page size widths Ghostscript has 
hard-coded certain behaviors for fax purposes into the tiffg3 and tiffg4 
drivers. These hard-coded behaviors defeat the typical automatic page 
rotation or page resizing features in Ghostscript, but they are of 
benefit to the vast majority of all fax uses (non-fax users find these 
behaviors troublesome) - the exception to that benefit being when the 
pixel width of the source image is greater than the fixed-pixel-width 
limitation in the fax protocol (typical with landscape-rotated pages).

In retrospect it would have been better if the Ghostscript tiffg3 and 
tiffg4 drivers had not implemented any of these behaviors on behalf of 
fax users and required fax users to dynamically adjust resolution to get 
the right pixel-width pages. However, that opportunity is now gone, and 
so many fax users depend on these behaviors that they really can't be 
torn out. So we have to cope with what we have.

The most-effective, simple, and reliable coping method right now is to 
use "FIXEDWIDTH=-dPDFFitPage" option in 
/var/spool/hylafax/etc/FaxModify. Unfortunately, that doesn't rotate 
pages. It merely resizes them to fit on the page. But that way at least 
nothing gets cut off. Unfortunately, that may render text too small to 
be legible.

The real answer is to either preprocess the image before feeding it to 
Ghostscript's tiffg3/tiffg4 drivers (and this preprocessing could be 
with Ghoscript, I suppose) or to provide auto-rotation Postcript code to 
Ghostscript with the image that will augment Ghostscript's default 
behaviors. This latter idea is what is behind the 
"FIXEDWIDTH=bin/auto-rotate.ps" feature that was introduced into 
HylaFAX+ 5.3.0. Unfortunately, this feature does not work for most 
mixed-rotation documents.

So for now my recommendation would be to use the -dPDFFitPage option and 
to send me a copy of the mixed-rotation document so that I can try my 
hand again at figuring out what to do.

I feel obliged to also point you at one user's solution to this problem:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.telephony.fax.hylafax.user/31816

I don't necessarily endorse this approach, however, in particular 
because it employs ImageMagick's convert tool rather than limiting 
itself to Ghostscript and libtiff which is already on every HylaFAX 
user's system.

Thanks,

Lee.



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