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Thanks to David Woolley (UK) and Tony Chen (NZ) for their patience... I have a solution to the ADMIN password issue. Firstly, it is no possible (under RH5.1) to just copy a /etc/passwd accross to the /var/spool/fax/etc/hosts. This is probably becaues RH5.1 is using PAM not DES for password encryption. Tony's c program to generate DES passwords works fine when compiled with the crypt library. (cc -lcrypt password.c -o password) The man for hosts is (5F) under RH not (4F) and is fairly good : - the point to note is the first acceptable entry match trick... ie. put your "<username>:0::<encrypted password>" entry first I hope this helps Damian (Cisco) and others... all credit to David and Tony, Keith -- http://members.ocean.com.au/kapgray/