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Hi George, You must decide what is important to you. If you can accept error rates of 3 in 120 then return to Class 2. If not, then use Class 1 and buy yourself a better modem.... this really is the only way that you will get to low error rates. Please remember that in Class 2 it's that modem that's doing most of the work and therefore it's up to the modem to get it right (i.e. the fax application can do little to overcome some bugs). In Class 1 the fax application is doing most of the work and can therefore overcome many problems... HOWEVER, it's not doing everything and must rely on the modem to do some things correctly.... USR modems have know bugs and will give you issues... sorry, but that's how it is. If the Multitech's that you have chosen are based on the Agere Venus chipset then you will get better results. Again, you must use Class 1 to allow HylaFAX to do the work. If these still do not meet your requirements then buy yourself a fax board based on the latest Agere chipset, CFAX34, from a company that's actively developing fax firmware; http://www.mainpine.com/products_IQE.php Regards, ANDREW RINALDI Mainpine Limited - Support USA +1 503 822 9944 | Asia/Europe +44 1225 869439 andrew.rinaldi@xxxxxxxxxxxx | www.mainpine.com -----Original Message----- From: hylafax-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:hylafax-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George H Sent: 04 May 2007 10:53 To: hylafax-users@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [hylafax-users] Decrease error check will prevent T.30 T2 timeout error ? I have hylafax running for a week now with that USR modem on Class 2. I only got maybe 3 error pages during that week out of 120 faxes. Then from a previous post Lee recomended I swithc to class 1. I did and now for 1 day I been getting lots of T.30 T1 Time Out and T.30 T2 Time Out. I am seriously thinking of switching it back to class 2 and see the difference. We get faxes from the same numbers everyday .. aprox 20 (minimum a day) so if I see less errors using class2 than class 1.. I can assume it's better. Plus I got a bunch of multitech modems aswell I can mix them in and see which ones work better :P But so far you're telling me that it is MY modem that is causing the problmes? How do I know it's not the sender's fault and not mine ? On 5/4/07, Andrew Rinaldi <andrew.rinaldi@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi George, > > If you search the mail archives you will find lots of people reporting > problems with USR modems. You will find that fixing one area will break > another... and in my opinion you will never get a solid solution. > > Invest in a modem based on an Agere (now LSI) Venus or CFAX34 chipset.... > you will save yourself a lot of time and effort. > > Regards > > ANDREW RINALDI > Mainpine Limited - Support > USA +1 503 822 9944| Asia/Europe +44 1225 869439 > andrew.rinaldi@xxxxxxxxxxxx| www.mainpine.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hylafax-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:hylafax-users-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George H > Sent: 04 May 2007 05:37 > To: hylafax-users@xxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [hylafax-users] Decrease error check will prevent T.30 T2 timeout > error ? > > Hi again, > > After switching my US robotics modem (U.S. Robotics 56K FAX EXT > V1.915M) from Class 2 to Class 1 I started getting some odd errors > (maybe it was just bad luck I don't know) on Hylafax+ 5.1.2. > > For 1 certain fax I got "T.30 T2 timeout, expected page not received" > twice and then "RSPREC error/got DCN" I looked at the TIFF files , it > seems that the first 2 times only the first page came through. The > second one looked like the first page and some black lines at the end. > > Snips of the log files are as follows: > ---- > May 3 21:29:40 faxserver FaxGetty[20304]: MODEM U.S. ROBOTICS 56K FAX > EXT V1.915M 5604/ > May 3 21:30:09 faxserver FaxGetty[20304]: ANSWER: FAX CONNECTION > DEVICE '/dev/ttyS0' > May 3 21:30:58 faxserver FaxGetty[20304]: RECV: REJECT page quality, > 88% good lines (95% required) > ---- > May 3 21:24:20 faxserver FaxGetty[20304]: RECV FAX (000000146): > session with <UNSPECIFIED> terminated abnormally: T.30 T2 timeout, > expected page not received > May 3 21:24:20 faxserver FaxGetty[20304]: RECV FAX: bin/faxrcvd > 'recvq/fax000000102.tif' 'ttyS0' '000000146' 'T.30 T2 timeout, > expected page not received' > ---- > > When I made some searches on this problem I saw posts of people > talking about reducing error checking or even turning it off > completely. I don't know too much about this stuff so I wonder if this > is a problem from the sender or from my end or from just crappy phone > lines. > > Below is the full log of the bad fax (got that twice and then I got > the "RSPREC error/got DCN" notification which is even longer. Any > ideas or help is appreciated. > > recvq/fax000000103.tif (ftp://faxserver:4559/recvq/fax000000103.tif): > Sender: <UNSPECIFIED> > Pages: 1 > Quality: Fine > Size: ISO A4 > Received: 2007:05:03 21:25:20 > Time To Receive: 0:50 > Signal Rate: 9600 bit/s > Data Format: 2-D MR > Error Correct: No > Received On: ttyS0 > > The full document was not received because: > > T.30 T2 timeout, expected page not received > > ---- Transcript of session follows ---- > > May 03 21:25:03.15: [20304]: SESSION BEGIN 000000147 +961******** > May 03 21:25:03.15: [20304]: HylaFAX (tm) Version 5.1.2 > May 03 21:25:03.15: [20304]: MODEM set XON/XOFF/FLUSH: input ignored, > output disabled > May 03 21:25:03.15: [20304]: <-- [4:ATA\r] > May 03 21:25:09.11: [20304]: --> [7:CONNECT] > May 03 21:25:09.11: [20304]: ANSWER: FAX CONNECTION DEVICE '/dev/ttyS0' > May 03 21:25:09.11: [20304]: STATE CHANGE: ANSWERING -> RECEIVING > May 03 21:25:09.12: [20304]: RECV FAX: begin > May 03 21:25:09.12: [20304]: <-- HDLC<32:FF C0 04 B5 00 AA 12 9E 36 86 > 62 82 1A 04 14 2E B6 94 04 6A A6 4E CE 96 F6 76 04 AC 74 8C 74 4C> > May 03 21:25:11.14: [20304]: --> [7:CONNECT] > May 03 21:25:11.14: [20304]: <-- HDLC<23:FF C0 02 4E A6 6E 4E A6 CA 04 > 1E 86 62 04 B2 F2 32 42 04 04 04 04 04> > May 03 21:25:11.96: [20304]: --> [7:CONNECT] > May 03 21:25:11.96: [20304]: <-- HDLC<13:FF C8 01 00 77 5F 23 01 FB C1 01 01 > 1E> > May 03 21:25:12.60: [20304]: --> [2:OK] > May 03 21:25:12.60: [20304]: <-- [9:AT+FRH=3\r] > May 03 21:25:15.67: [20304]: --> [7:CONNECT] > May 03 21:25:16.75: [20304]: --> HDLC<9:FF C8 C1 00 63 19 00 FA 0B> > May 03 21:25:16.75: [20304]: --> [2:OK] > May 03 21:25:16.75: [20304]: REMOTE wants 9600 bit/s > May 03 21:25:16.75: [20304]: REMOTE wants A4 page width (215 mm) > May 03 21:25:16.75: [20304]: REMOTE wants unlimited page length > May 03 21:25:16.75: [20304]: REMOTE wants 7.7 line/mm > May 03 21:25:16.75: [20304]: REMOTE wants 2-D MR > May 03 21:25:16.75: [20304]: RECV training at v.29 9600 bit/s > May 03 21:25:16.75: [20304]: MODEM set XON/XOFF/DRAIN: input ignored, > output generated > May 03 21:25:16.75: [20304]: <-- [10:AT+FRM=96\r] > May 03 21:25:17.19: [20304]: --> [7:CONNECT] > May 03 21:25:18.83: [20304]: MODEM set XON/XOFF/DRAIN: input ignored, > output disabled > May 03 21:25:18.83: [20304]: RECV: TCF 1944 bytes, 4% non-zero, 1791 > zero-run > May 03 21:25:18.83: [20304]: --> [10:NO CARRIER] > May 03 21:25:18.83: [20304]: <-- [9:AT+FRS=7\r] > May 03 21:25:18.99: [20304]: --> [2:OK] > May 03 21:25:18.99: [20304]: TRAINING succeeded > May 03 21:25:18.99: [20304]: <-- [9:AT+FTH=3\r] > May 03 21:25:19.06: [20304]: --> [7:CONNECT] > May 03 21:25:19.06: [20304]: <-- HDLC<3:FF C8 21> > May 03 21:25:20.36: [20304]: --> [2:OK] > May 03 21:25:20.36: [20304]: <-- [10:AT+FRM=96\r] > May 03 21:25:22.86: [20304]: --> [7:CONNECT] > May 03 21:25:22.86: [20304]: MODEM input buffering enabled > May 03 21:25:22.86: [20304]: MODEM set XON/XOFF/FLUSH: input ignored, > output generated > May 03 21:25:22.86: [20304]: RECV: begin page > May 03 21:25:59.54: [20304]: RECV/CQ: Bad 1D pixel count, row 2299, > got 0, expected 1728 > May 03 21:25:59.54: [20304]: RECV/CQ: Bad 1D pixel count, row 2300, > got 0, expected 1728 > May 03 21:25:59.54: [20304]: RECV/CQ: Bad 1D pixel count, row 2301, > got 0, expected 1728 > May 03 21:25:59.54: [20304]: RECV/CQ: Bad 1D pixel count, row 2302, > got 0, expected 1728 > May 03 21:25:59.79: [20304]: RECV/CQ: Adjusting for RTC found at row 2299 > May 03 21:25:59.79: [20304]: RECV: 2299 total lines, 0 bad lines, 0 > consecutive bad lines > May 03 21:25:59.79: [20304]: RECV: end page > May 03 21:25:59.79: [20304]: --> [10:NO CARRIER] > May 03 21:25:59.79: [20304]: <-- [9:AT+FRH=3\r] > May 03 21:26:18.59: [20304]: --> [10:NO CARRIER] > May 03 21:26:18.59: [20304]: MODEM No carrier > May 03 21:26:18.59: [20304]: RECV keeping unconfirmed page > May 03 21:26:18.59: [20304]: RECV FAX (000000147): from <UNSPECIFIED>, > page 1 in 0:50, INF, 7.7 line/mm, 2-D MR, 9600 bit/s > May 03 21:26:19.60: [20304]: RECV FAX (000000147): > recvq/fax000000103.tif from <UNSPECIFIED>, subaddress <unspecified>, 1 > pages in 1:09 > May 03 21:26:19.60: [20304]: RECV FAX: T.30 T2 timeout, expected page > not received > May 03 21:26:19.60: [20304]: <-- [9:AT+FTH=3\r] > May 03 21:26:19.75: [20304]: --> [5:ERROR] > May 03 21:26:19.75: [20304]: RECV FAX (000000147): session with > <UNSPECIFIED> terminated abnormally: T.30 T2 timeout, expected page > not received > May 03 21:26:19.75: [20304]: RECV FAX: bin/faxrcvd > 'recvq/fax000000103.tif' 'ttyS0' '000000147' 'T.30 T2 timeout, > expected page not received' > May 03 21:26:19.75: [20304]: RECV FAX: end > May 03 21:26:19.75: [20304]: SESSION END > > The facsimile was automatically dispatched to: Modem 1 > <modem1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>. > > > -- > "Nothing is impossible for the person that doesn't have to do it" > "The probability of anything happening is in inverse ratio to its > desirability" > "If I were a roman statue, I'd be made alabastard" > -- > George H > george.dma@xxxxxxxxx > > ____________________ HylaFAX(tm) Users Mailing List _______________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, click http://lists.hylafax.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi > On UNIX: mail -s unsubscribe hylafax-users-request@xxxxxxxxxxx < /dev/null > *To learn about commercial HylaFAX(tm) support, mail sales@xxxxxxxxx* > > > > > ____________________ HylaFAX(tm) Users Mailing List _______________________ > To subscribe/unsubscribe, click http://lists.hylafax.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi > On UNIX: mail -s unsubscribe hylafax-users-request@xxxxxxxxxxx < /dev/null > *To learn about commercial HylaFAX(tm) support, mail sales@xxxxxxxxx* > > -- "Nothing is impossible for the person that doesn't have to do it" "The probability of anything happening is in inverse ratio to its desirability" "If I were a roman statue, I'd be made alabastard" -- George H george.dma@xxxxxxxxx ____________________ HylaFAX(tm) Users 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