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Luke, >I've saw that the Mainpine people were saying a few negative things >about the Eicon Diva server in earlier posts by suggesting to list >readers not to buy these boards in contary to what the "official" >hylafax howto says. The "official" HylaFAX how-to is simply a guide.... it's not an authoritative source of information on which modem to use because like much of the HylaFAX documentation anyone is free to contribute (i.e. anyone is free to say the modem XYZ from manufacturer ABC is the best thing since 'sliced bread'). What is missing from this list is the information that you really need to make an informed decision, firmware revisions, test data, test setup, OS versions, fax's sent, fax's received, HylaFAX versions, host hardware, etc, etc, etc.. It's also important to understand that some of the information on this list has been provided by commercial entities and some has not. If you want to know how Mainpine tests HylaFAX and HylaFAX+ then drop an email to support@xxxxxxxxxxxx and they will give you as much detail as you desire. For a 'glossy' overview see here; http://www.mainpine.com/isv/lab/ of course, you can always approach the other vendors on the list for their test results.... I just hope you don't mind waiting..... >The Eicon Diva boards handle the fax reception in Firmware so even >though the patch is small one would assume it will be just as reliable >as anything else. Comments from users of Eicon Diva users welcome... We are a high volume user of Eicon Diva Server. Most of our testing has been based on the analog boards although we've also seen live data from digital installations. Two things you should always consider; The Eicon Diva Server uses a DSP 'Farm' architecture where a single CPU serves multiple DSP's. This architecture yields significantly lower reliability because of the single point of failure. The Eicon Diva Server has a proprietary pseudo Class 2 interface. This interface not only restricts the ability of HylaFAX to address protocol issues it also depends on Eicon firmware upgrades to address problems. If you search the HylaFAX archives you will find numerous examples of Diva users who have required firmware upgrades which I'm willing to bet never get addressed. Remember that fax is a tiny part of Eicon's revenue. One final comment. You seem to be alarmed at the amount of commercial activity on this list and the use of 'advertising' in email footers, etc. May I remind you that every HylaFAX list posting contains an iFAX advertisement and that the HylaFAX+ sourceforge.net site is plastered in adverts. Personally, I have no problem with this and think it reflects the real world.... HylaFAX benefits from its commercial sponsors and this represent the greatest chance that HylaFAX has for breaking into the mainstream. Regards ANDREW RINALDI Mainpine Limited - Support USA +1 503 822 9944 | Asia/Europe +44 1225 869439 andrew.rinaldi@xxxxxxxxxxxx | www.mainpine.com ____________________ HylaFAX(tm) Users Mailing List _______________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe, click http://lists.hylafax.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi On UNIX: mail -s unsubscribe hylafax-users-request@xxxxxxxxxxx < /dev/null *To learn about commercial HylaFAX(tm) support, mail sales@xxxxxxxxx*