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ok - so i am an idiot... how the heck do i make the /dev/ttyG* ownerships and permissions changes persist? the default is: crw--w--w- 2 root root 70, 47 Aug 15 15:18 ttyG0_47 and for the Patton Digi DataFire RAS card to work, the perms need to be: crw-rw-rw- 2 uucp uucp 70, 47 Aug 15 15:18 ttyG0_47 This is on a RH9 box, btw... Thanks, jeff ____________________ HylaFAX(tm) Users Mailing List _______________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe, click http://lists.hylafax.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi On UNIX: mail -s unsubscribe hylafax-users-request@xxxxxxxxxxx < /dev/null *To learn about commercial HylaFAX(tm) support, mail sales@xxxxxxxxx*