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I'm new to the list and I usually don't rant at all, but I've noticed in the last couple of days that there are a lot of questions being asked that are very well documented in the setup instructions. So to all the people who are installing for the first time, I welcome you to the world of self-help. It's all about reading. Most packages available for *nix installations are very well documented, and the mailing list should be used for me specific problems with installation, and troubleshooting. Not for 'Ok I've downloaded the .tar.gz file, now what?' Please, please read the docs before installing, and then print them, and follow them while installing. I installed the package one evening, and followed the directions from top to bottom, and didn't run into a single problem. nuff said... Joey Officer Sales & Operations Martin Apparatus, Inc. 800-784-6806 x11 jofficer@martinapparatus.com ____________________ HylaFAX(tm) Users Mailing List _______________________ To subscribe/unsubscribe, click http://lists.hylafax.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi On UNIX: mail -s unsubscribe hylafax-users-request@hylafax.org < /dev/null *To learn about commercial HylaFAX(tm) support, mail sales@hylafax.org.*