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here is a snippet from the logs for a fax that we did NOT receive, but the sender believes we received: -----snip----- An attempt to receive facsimile on cua1 failed because: Normal and proper end of connection ---- Transcript of session follows ---- ---- some deleted stuff here --- Feb 15 15:56:53.50: [23091]: RECV: 1077 total lines, 96 bad lines, 6 consecutive bad lines Feb 15 15:56:53.50: [23091]: --> [20:+FPTS:1,1067,117,7,0] Feb 15 15:56:55.17: [23091]: --> [6:+FET:2] Feb 15 15:56:55.17: [23091]: RECV recv EOP (no more pages or documents) Feb 15 15:56:55.17: [23091]: --> [2:OK] Feb 15 15:56:55.17: [23091]: RECV: REJECT page quality, 6-line run (max 5) Feb 15 15:56:55.17: [23091]: RECV send RTN (retrain negative) Feb 15 15:56:55.17: [23091]: <-- [10:AT+FPTS=2\r] Feb 15 15:56:55.29: [23091]: --> [2:OK] Feb 15 15:56:55.29: [23091]: <-- [7:AT+FDR\r] Feb 15 15:56:58.67: [23091]: --> [8:+FHNG:00] Feb 15 15:56:58.67: [23091]: REMOTE HANGUP: Normal and proper end of connection (code 0) Feb 15 15:56:58.67: [23091]: RECV FAX (00030862): recvq/fax23168.tif from 12062481729, route to <unspecified>, 0 pages in 0:42 Feb 15 15:56:58.73: [23091]: RECV FAX: Normal and proper end of connection Feb 15 15:56:58.73: [23091]: RECV FAX (00030862): session with 12062481729 terminated abnormally: Normal and proper end of connection Feb 15 15:56:58.73: [23091]: RECV FAX: bin/faxrcvd "recvq/fax23168.tif" "cua1" "00030862" "Normal and proper end of connection" ----snip---- based on the remote fax machines logs, they think that we received the fax. there is no fax23168.tif at our end. that sequence number is missing. on the remote machines logs, there is a note about "readable quality", but then there is an OK afterwards, leading the operator to believe we will call them if we cannot read the fax. if this was happening with one fax machine only, i wouldn't be concerned, but it is happening with many. ok - now for my question. i was thinking about modifying my source so that i returned an +FTPS=4 which indicates page bad and interrupt requested. i am hoping that this will indicate to the sender "bad fax". has anyone else experienced the same problems with retrain and found a solution?? i am still on hylafax-v4.0pl2, but i'd upgrade to a stable version if it fixes this problem. also, fyi, MODEM ZYXEL U1496E/V 6.19 P tia, ___cliff rayman___cliff@genwax.com___http://www.genwax.com/ ____________________ HylaFAX(tm) Users Mailing List _______________________ To unsub: mail -s unsubscribe hylafax-users-request@hylafax.org < /dev/null