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Re: [hylafax-users] Faxing using VOIP



CG,

If you're going over cable or adsl links to a provider who could be halfway across the country or even world then using VOIP codecs is only going to cause heartache. It'll work sometimes but more often than not it will fail.

If you would like to use T.38 there's a couple of things you need to ascertain. First is whether the provider supports it or not, second whether they do h323 because that is what the t.38 modem uses (not SIP).

If your provider does not support t.38 you've had it. That is most likely where you'll find the problems lie.

If the above tests have been passed then you want to install t38modem from www.openh323.org and follow the brief but nonetheless helpful instructions on the mailing list archives. Once installed the device is just like a modem and there is a hylafax modem config for it.

Regards,

Kimble Young

CG wrote:
Negativity is okay. I'd rather know now than waste time later.

I'm connecting using an Analog adaptor. The modem connects directly to the
device. There is a WAN port on the adaptor itself which is what it uses to
communicate with the provider (lingo).

Here's the device, as close as I can tell:

http://www.pcdglobal.com/VoIP.htm

The device, according to that webpage, appears to support T.38 Faxing... My
provider appears to use its own firmware, and I don't have supervisor access,
so I'm not sure if its enabled or not.

I've googled T.38 and come up with some reading... Any hints to explicit
HylaFax+T.38 HOWTO's would sure save some time!!

I haven't been able to find out how to tell HylaFax to limit the maximum
bandwidth when using hfaxd and faxq (not sendfax). Anyone know how to do this?

CG

--- Kimble Young <kimble@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


I hate to be negative but unless you're trying to fax over VOIP over ethernet you're going to have all sorts of problems. This is because internet links have lag and packet loss etc.

T.38 alleviates these problems a fair bit but needs equipment that supports it.

Regards,

Kimble Young

CG wrote:

I upgraded to 4.2.0... Still no better over the VOIP line.

It seems like every second or third fax fails in "No answer (T.30 T1

timeout)"


Still, whole lines from the printed page are disappearing.

Switching back to POTS fixes every issue except for the long distance fees.

Please advise. Many thanks!

CG


--- CG <cgg007@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:




I saw that, but I don't see "sendfax" firing... I queue the fax up using
hfaxd.
I see FaxGetty, FaxQueuer, and FaxSend. I don't think my fax process uses
that
application at all!

Before I wrote to the list, I tried using "DesiredSpeed" in
/var/spool/hylafax/etc/config and in /var/spool/hylafax/etc/config.ttyS3. It was an unknown command in both

places


according to daemon.log ...

I guess I still need a point in the right direction...



Can you explain better the error correction for Class1 and Class1.0? Would I configure my modem as a Class1 device instead of a Class2.0

device?


Do all Class1 fax machines support error correction?


CG


--- Giulio Orsero <giulioo@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 10:56:33 -0800 (PST), CG <cgg007@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Hylafax 4.1.7 ...

I'm trying to get HylaFax to use our VOIP line to fax out. I'm having a

problem



where the received fax is missing lines. Tech support said to lower the
baudrate and try that. I see plenty of options in the documentation to

set


the
man sendfax:
-B speed Try to transmit facsimile documents using the desired sig-
nalling rate. Possible speeds are: 2400, 4800, 7200, 9600,
12000, 14400, 16800, 19200, 21600, 24000, 26400, 28800,
31200, and 33600. If the specified speed is greater than
the transmitting modem or receiver is capable of, it is
reduced to the highest possible speed both devices support.


That is equivalent to DesiredSpeed param in /etc/hylafax/hyla.conf



Is there any better strategy for faxing over VOIP?

You could try upgrading to 2.0 which has error correction for class1/1.0 faxing.

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giulioo@xxxxxxxxx

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