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Maybe it's me, the modems, or the ports I'm trying to use. I tried cua1, as well as intelligent serial on ttysa.( Digi Portserver ][ serial-telnet port attached to /dev/ttysa ) cua1 seems to be flakey as I can't get simple devices to work right. /dev/ttysa works fine until faxsend tries to config the modem for faxing. At that point, the rtty daemon for serial port 26(which is telnet-nailed to ttysa) dies and the modem gets the boot. I have to redo that port again and play with the modem until it responds to echo'd AT commands. I have no problems with dial-out, dial-in, printers, or terminals on the same type of serial ports. Anyone have any ideas what to do?? I have everything working fine, except the dern modem. Glen aka Ryengoth