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Glenn, Have you been able to make gm4w8-hylafax work with Goldmine 5? When I loaded it, Goldmine still insists upon loading GMLink. If you got it to work, I'm anxious to hear what you did. John -- John Schmerold Katy Computer, LLC 20 Meramec Station Rd Valley Park, MO 63088 314-316-9000 314-316-9200 fax --