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hi, thank you very much for reading this email :-) after a while i have come this far: "0 string %PDF ps pdf2ps %i %o" but still the answer is: "test.pdf: Can not determine file type" (where "test.pdf" is my filename) in the doc's it says that no piping or stdin works with .pdf. could that be the reason?! thanks for a hint jens (whenever you might come to stuttgart, germany, i owe you a couple of beers) 7:^)