Re: flexfax: sendfax works - faxmail and other frontends don't !!!

[Michael Agbaglo <byteshifter@shifted-bytes.de>]

Phil Watkinson wrote:
> 
> At 18:37 04/03/1998 +0100, Michael Agbaglo wrote:
> >2 Configurations - one problem ... !
> >
> >A)
> >RedHat 4.1
> >HylaFax 4.0pl1
> >
> 
> Have you given up with RedHat 5.0 and HylaFAX v4.0pl2? The compile
> problems were a real pig to sort out, but solvable in the end.

Yes, I gave up w/ Redhat 5.0 - but I'm not ashamed. RH5.0 is a real mess
! They think they're very cool using libc6 exclusively. But most
important tools doesn't compile. e.g. ckermit - it requires termcap and
libc5. But the s**t begins earlier: 5.0 has no rc.serial... There's no
need to install other users beyond root: Everybody can become root
easily - just go to single user mode and get a root shell w/o supplying
a password - finest Win95-security !

In contrast to RH4.1 it wasn't enough to edit the makefiles in
man/cman.apps man/cman.files man/sman.apps and man/sman.files. hylafax
still whimpered during make install, faxq doesn't become installed...

But compiling and installing the stuff on Debian was really convincing:
no errors at all.

> 
> >[snip]
> >I CAN send faxes via sendfax - but I CAN'T send faxes via
> >faxmail/susefax/whfc. Of course I can log into the fax server but what
> >shall I type in to test it ?
> >faxmail/susefax/whfc don't report usual errors. But their faxes become
> >queued with 0:0 pages.
> 
> I have never seen or heard of a problem like this, and guessing from
> the reply to your previous message on the 28 Feb 98, no one else has

Yes. seems so - but I can't believe this. The guys I talked to have
other problems. pages shrunk to thumbnail size or client connect works
from Win95 but not from WinNT. One left the stuff a is waiting for some
patches the other changed to WinNT and a commercial hard and software
solution. They haven't got the nerve to discuss their problems in a
newsgroup. 

> either. You need to go into general-troubleshooting-mode, and provide
> more information on the things that look suspicious.
> 
> A suggestion would be to have a look at /var/spool/fax/docq and the
> postscript documents therein; there are any differences between the
> ones successfully sent by sendfax and the ones generated from whfc?
> Use ghostview or similar to inspect the bounding box parameters.
> 
> >Do I need additional conf files ? There are no sendfax.conf,
> >hylafax.conf and faxmail.conf
> >
> 
> hylafax.conf?  There is a default hfaxd.conf which is installed as part of
> faxsetup; you probably don't need hyla.conf, sendfax.conf nor faxmail.conf
> to actually get a fax sent.
> 
> >I'M REALLY DESPERATE - I'M MANGELING AROUND WITH HYLAFAX FOR HALF A YEAR
> >NOW... :-(((
> >
> 
> My archives tell me your first message to this mailing-list was 29 Apr 97;
> HylaFAX is a sophisticated suite of software trying to do a complex job -

hmm. if perl would make similar trouble no one would be able to use
it...

> but it certainly is not this hard to install and setup correctly. There is
> something definitely wrong with your system(s) or the way you are going

huh ? The RH5.0 and the debian 1.3.1 have been put on the system just
before hylafax. there was no old rubbish on the system.

> through the configure/setup procedure.
> 
> Good Luck,

Yeah, seems as if I need a family pack of it ...

ok. here are some details:

HylaFAX scheduler on avocado: Running
Modem ttyS1 (+49.30.79700980): Running and idle

JID  Pri S  Owner Number       Pages Dials     TTS Status

[...]
35   126 D bytesh 3128103       0:0   2:12


/var/spool/fax/doneq/q35

tts:888523281
killtime:888533796
retrytime:0
state:7
npages:0
totpages:0
ntries:0
ndials:0
totdials:2
maxdials:12
tottries:1
maxtries:3
pagewidth:209
resolution:98
pagelength:296
priority:127
schedpri:126
minsp:0
desiredbr:5
desiredst:0
desiredec:1
desireddf:3
desiredtl:0
useccover:1
external:3128103
number:3128103
mailaddr:byteshifter@shifted-bytes.de
sender:Michael Agbaglo
jobid:35
jobtag:
pagehandling:
modem:any
receiver:
company:
location:
cover:
client:kiwi.shifted-bytes.de
owner:byteshifter
groupid:35
signalrate:14400 bit/s
dataformat:2-D MMR
jobtype:facsimile
tagline:
subaddr:
passwd:
doneop:default
commid:00000081
status:
notify:none
pagechop:default
chopthreshold:3
data:0::docq/doc55.ps.35

-rw-rw----   1 uucp            0 Feb 26 20:57 doc55.ps.35