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I second this, and some comments my o(1) worth: >It's sentiments like this, true as they are, that make me look upon >efforts to make HylaFAX work on NT with total revulsion. I just want to add that while having HylaFAX run on NT server looks like a waste of effort to me too, I think that having a NT (Workstation, but I think it would not make a big difference except maybe for the limitation on 10 connections) client would be a good thing IMHO. >Microsoft has historically used its applications arm as leverage to push >its own OS and OS upgrades. Want the new version of Office? Gotta buy the >new Windows. Well, to counter this . >Similar leverage has frequently been used by Microsoft to drive a wedge >into the Unix market. Why do people switch from Unix to NT? Not because >NT is faster or cheaper or more flexible, but because that's where the >applications are. If Microsoft is as Java-friendly as it claims, why is it >now forcing all Java applets to be taken off the Microsoft Network? In case anyone doubts, a Java client for HylaFAX would also be welcome. Has anybody tried the one from Germany, called susefax I believe ? >HylaFAX operation is the antithesis of the NT way of doing things. >Command-line administration, chains of compact tools rather than >monolythic programs, no fancy GUIs, documentation in FAQs and manpages -- >all classic Unix methods. How much work would be required to make this >usable in the NT world? Has anybody considered layering a GUI *on top* of this ? Most efforts in the Linux world do not remove traditional Unix strengths, just build on them a two-way interface (read conf files to fill fields when GUI is brought up, rewrite them when saving changes). I think this could become simpler if configuration file access were abstracted away in a library or C++ hierarchy, but there is no real code work behind this statement. >Sorry. Call this the rantings of someone who's being a cranky old fart >tonight if you wish --- but the notion that scarce HylaFAX R&D hours may >be diverted to shoehorn it into NT's limitations makes me sick. While we >may not be able to stop the lemmings from falling for the NT hype, IMO we >ought not to encourage such action either. I also think that the problem is scarce R&D hours; I set myself to the task of writing a Windows 95 device driver + client application for HylaFAX in my spare time. That's what I am trying to contribute, in GPL to make sure the source will be around for others to improve. Davide Bolcioni